This one is pure education...two experts in Real Estate: one from a global level and one from an Interior perspective. Note to self before listening, we live indoors over 90% of our lives!

Our guests are fantastic, Brendan Gill, President of the MacKenzie Companies, a Full Service Real Estate company located in Lutherville with roots all over the Baltimore Metropolitan area. His Uncle Mike Gill, Maryland's Commerce Secretary was with us just a few weeks back – what a great Baltimore family. Kelly Ennis of the Verve Partnership is amongst the best of a new class of Interior Designers, not just looking at space but looking at space and how it impacts us humans while we are inside it.

You'll learn that there is healthy space, and there's every other space.  Major companies are looking at recreating space in a post-pandemic world and these two are right in the middle of it. We discuss a wide range of topics including workforce development and the need for a focus on creating more jobs for the Built Environment. We also talk about the future of buildings and what it's going to take to get employee's back to those workplaces left abandoned by the pandemic. So much learning...

People are the reason buildings exist...our two great guests, both declared Holy by the Rev., give us hope for a healthier future indoors....

Thanks Brendan and Kelly for an awesome enlightening conversation.